A series of TIIMSA-sponsored
informative Zoom workshops
with topics relevant
to interim and transitional ministry

These one-hour video conference calls on Zoom are offered to maintain connections with one another and enhance our ministry toolbox during this time of social distancing. Our Conversations are the first Thursday of each month, beginning with a half-hour presentation of the topic, followed by Q&A and sharing of insights from participants.

How will denominational changes
affect intentional interim ministry?

The next TIIMSA Conversation #7:
“Denominational and Social Issues

in the TIIMS Setting”

Denominational and Social Issues in the TIIMS Setting

THURSDAY, MAY 6, 2021, on Zoom
at 4:00 pm Eastern, 3:00 pm Central,
2:00 pm Mountain, and
1:00 pm Pacific Times

You are invited to the Zoom Meeting
for your specific time zone:

Meeting ID: 990 990 9000


Bill Kemp
Roger Grace

BILL KEMP will team up with ROGER GRACE to discuss where The United Methodist Church is headed amid the LBGTQ controversy. If there is an official separation in 2022, what role can transitional consultants, such as Transitional Intentional Interim Ministry Specialists (TIIMS), play in lowering congregational anxiety? What advice does Roger have for pastors serving churches whose congregational culture may be at odds with the United Methodist mainstream? Roger is a member of the West Ohio Conference delegation to the next General Conference. He has served as a district superintendent, President of United Methodist Rural Advocates, and worked with Bill Kemp on the book, Help! My Church Is Leaving Me.

TIIMSA Conversation #6
was March 4, 2021:

Mapping Out the Post-COVID World

Bill Kemp outlines   the key issues interims and other church leaders will face in 2021. Is there a map that can help us navigate the next nine months? How do we talk about transition in a time when returning to normal is the only thing on people’s minds? What will the separation of church and state look like in the post-Trump era? How will we lead beyond the walls of our sanctuaries? How do we move ourselves from denial to acceptance of the current reality, from anger to the formation of a new identity, from bargaining to a saner decision-making process, from depression to self-care, and from passivity to actively planning for the future?

TIIMSA Conversation #6  presenter:

BILL KEMP is a United Methodist retired elder in the Western Pennsylvania Conference and longtime member of the TIIMSA Board of Directors, a novelist, self-help author, web-content provider, and an unofficial instigator for change.

Download the slide presentation PDF for this conversation HERE.

WATCH the recording of the March 4 Conversation (58:26)

TIIMSA Conversation #5
was February 4, 2021:

A Book Review of
by Gil Rendle”

Gil Rendle’s QUIETLY COURAGEOUS, Leading the Church in a Changing World was published in 2019, but explains in an uncanny way the paradigm shifts of what was happening then and has now gone into fast forward during the time of COVID-19. Written by an experienced United Methodist pastor, international church leader and consultant, the book urges a shift in perspectives on resources, discusses models of change, and offers suggestions for avoiding common pitfalls and working creatively.

This TIIMSA Conversation is more than a mere book REVIEW, it includes an OVERVIEW of what this book specifically has to say to those involved in Intentional Interim Ministry and a PREVIEW of a more indepth and updated presentation by the author himself as the keynote speaker at the 2021 TIIMSA Gathering Webinar on April 20-21 (see 2021 Gathering).

To purchase QUIETLY COURAGEOUS (highly recommended for those attending the 2021 TIIMSA Gathering Webinar), go to or your preferred book distributer.

TIIMSA Conversation #5 presenter and host:


KEITH L. HEAD — United Methodist retired elder in the North Texas Conference and TIIMS who serves as the Communications Coordinator on the TIIMSA Board of Directors.

Hosting is BILL KEMP, a United Methodist retired elder in the Western Pennsylvania Conference and longtime member of the TIIMSA Board of Directors, a novelist, self-help author, web-content provider, and an unofficial instigator for change.

Download the slide presentation PDF for this conversation HERE.

WATCH the recording of the February 4 Conversation (47:01)

TIIMSA Conversation #4
was January 7, 2020:

OF 2020 AND COVID-19”

TIME FOR AN EPIPHANY! Epiphany of the Lord (January 6) commemorates the coming of the Magi to the holy family with gifts for the Christ child. It also begins the church season of Epiphany with the common theme that Jesus Christ is “manifesting” God to all humans in the world. Also, as we consider the gifts of the three kings to the baby Jesus of gold, frankincense, and myrrh, we also consider the gifts we bring from our lives and experiences.

Is it possible that the year 2020 with the Coronavirus pandemic has brought us some unique and “unexpected” gifts that might not have happened otherwise? Our three presenters will bring their perspectives on this question as Transitional Intentional Interim Specialists! They will also be inviting our Zoom participants to share their “gifts” for insightful considerations of the challenges we faced in 2020, some best practices developed by local churches, and future-oriented thinking for ministry in 2021!

TIIMSA Conversation #4 presenters and host:

Hosting was BILL KEMP, a United Methodist retired elder in the Western Pennsylvania Conference and longtime member of the TIIMSA Board of Directors, a novelist, self-help author, web-content provider, and an unofficial instigator for change.

DIANNE CHRISTOPHER — United Methodist retired elder in the Iowa Conference who was instrumental in organizing TIIMSA and served as one of the early chairs of the Board of Directors.

Darrell Coats

DARRELL COATS — United Methodist elder in the North Texas Conference appointed full time to do interim ministry and past chair of TIIMSA.

WATCH the recording of the January 7 Conversation (54:27)


TIIMSA Conversation #3
was November 5, 2020:


The subject of finances is the most favorite discussion in the church … NOT! Yet we are called to be faithful stewards, even in times such as these. But how? The year of 2020 with COVID-19 has presented many financial challenges for individuals which impacts the church, as well. How can interim ministers approach this topic seeking generosity in the midst of scarcity? What hope may we offer for 2021?

Rev. Bonnie Osteen

The presenter was Rev. Bonnie Osteen who has served as a Transitional Intentional Interim Ministry Specialist (TIIMS) for 13 churches in a variety of situations that include: conflict, pastor removal, sabbatical, death in pastor’s family, cross cultural, transition between pastoral appointments, and at a college Wesley Foundation. This calling is one she approaches with passion. Bonnie received the TIIMS Approval status with General Board of Higher Education and Ministry (GBHEM) in 2014, and is currently  the Chair of the TIIMSA Board. In 2015, Bonnie joined the Texas Annual Conference staff as the Director of Intentional Interim Ministry. She is a National TIIMS Trainer and enjoys leading the seminars across the nation. She enjoys teaching and preaching about God’s abundance of grace. Also, her strong emphasis with hands-on-mission has given her the opportunity to serve through local ministries such as UMARMY and food pantries and also global mission trips to Guatemala, Costa Rica, Mexico, and Belize. Bonnie is married to Dave, who serves as Captain with Fire/EMS in Pearland, Texas

WATCH the recording of the November 5 Conversation (45:29)


TIIMSA Conversation #2
was October 1, 2020:

Advent has many themes and rituals that relate to transition and the interim ministry task. The end of 2020 is likely to be a year of social and political change. Many in your congregation will be looking forward to a post COVID-19 world. It is important to recognize what has been lost in 2020 and to turn the congregation’s attention towards a future that has yet to be revealed.

The presenter was Rev. Bill Kemp, a longtime member of the TIIMS Board of Directors, a novelist, self-help author, web-content provider, and an unofficial instigator for change. He has written over a dozen books, many of them dealing with transition, including “The Church Transition Workbook,” and “Going Home: Facing Life’s Final Moments without Fear” (with Diane Kerner Arnett). He also provides a weekly lectionary-based blog at Early in 2020, he launched the website which talks about the pandemic initiating a spiritual transition. In November, he will publish “The 5 Stages of COVID Anxiety: How to get through this mess and be better for it.”



WATCH the recording of the October 1 Converstion (59:35)


TIIMSA Conversation #1
was September 3, 2020:
“Beginning, Building and
Ending Relationships
in the time of COVID-19”

This Zoom presentation was our first TIIMSA Conversation led by Rev. Dr. Mary Catherine Miller, Senior Pastor of Newark United Methodist Church, with 18 participants from across the nation. Assuming relationships are essential to ministry and our current pandemic is changing how we relate to one another, the workshop gave an overview of keeping connected and radiating God’s love. Dr. Miller recalled the Process Tasks taught in the training of Transitional Intentional Interim Ministry Specialists and her experience of how ministry relationships have been affected by four different categories: IDENTIFY: what relationships do we have? DEFINE: prioritizing relationships by purpose. NURTURE: connecting and caring for individuals, as well as communities. RELEASE: saying farewell while preparing for a new pastor. The presentation was followed by enthusiastic discussion by the participants concerning best practices in the midst of a pandemic. The Zoom presentation was not recorded, but the Powerpoint is available for download here.



The GENERAL BOARD OF HIGHER EDUCATION AND MINISTRY, The United Methodist Church, provides resources for Interim Ministry on their website at you are a trained Transitional Intentional Interim Ministry Specialist and desire to apply for Approval Status from the GBHEM administered by the United Methodist Endorsing Agency, please go to the Methodist Endorsement Application Portal for the Methodist Churches of the Pan-Methodist Commission at

The Tasks of an Intentional Interim Minister

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